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Ricer
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Power steering delete  Reply with quote

THIS INFO TAKEN FROM HONDA-TECH MEMBER JDMEFSEDAN.

sup sedan owners...I just received my 90 EF Si rack today. Unfortunately, the auto-wrecker sent me a front x-member instead of the rear. All good, tho...i'll just have to wait. I did notice a couple things...

FYI...the racks are somewhat different. I do think the non-power steering rack will work in a power-steering rear x-member. The only noticeable difference is the diameter of the two racks. If you take a look at both of them, the power-steering (ps) rack has a thicker diameter. This is absolutely why the ps x-member and non-ps x-member are different; to accomodate a "thicker diameter" rack.

The racks are held onto the x-member by two bolts and a half circle "strap/bracket". This half circle bracket attaches onto the rear x-member via two bolts and a "rubber" gromet that wraps around the rack. The only problem I see with using a non-ps rack in a ps cross-member is that "strap/bracket" and rubber gromet on the ps x-member is larger than a non-ps. In other words, if you use a non ps rack with a ps "strap/bracket" and rubber gromet, there will be too much clearance between the "strap/bracket" and rubber gromet assembly AND the rack itself.

To remedy this problem, you can do one of two things.

1. using a ps x-member and non ps rack, use the following:
- a non-ps rack AND rubber gromet
- the "strap/bracket" and rubber gromet from your existing ps x-member
Basically use the non-ps rubber gromet AND the ps gromet to take up the clearance between the "strap/bracket" and rubber gromet(s).

2. using a non-ps x-member and non-ps rack, basically nothing new
Just assemble the non-ps rack to the non-ps x-member, and bolt it in.

I opted for the second option because I didn't want to run into any unforseen problems with the clearance issues down the road. Plus...the auto wrecker already charged me for it. Oh well..."Do it once, Do it right." That's my motto.

In a sense, ex voto was correct!!
Quote, originally posted by ex voto
The crossmembers ARE different. The CRX Si rear crossmember (that the rack attaches to, anyway) is different. But I'm told that the rack will bolt onto the sedan's crossmember anyway. I don't think that it works the other way around.
That's just what I was told from a very certified Honda mechanic. He said it was an easy swap with no problems. I was very specific in my questions... I swapped a ZC and the PS rarely works in them without a ZC hood, but my sedan swapped it in just fine.

If no one finds out, I'll be able to confirm in a couple of months. That's my next mod.


Modified by ex voto at 7:51 PM 5/4/2005



Here is a pic of the differences in the two racks.
http://is.rely.net/1-421-20486-l-ZCYmuzhyowvRIumZMLmxtg.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I am correct the main reason to delete Power sterring is to drop some wieght on our 4g4d what is that 2-3 n maybe what 5 pounds! Or what is you reason for deleteing power sterring!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the feel of manual steering better.. it just gives me much better road feel.. makes me feel more connected to the car.. it also frees up a little power... not much... but a little..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully agree with the above statement. I do not like p/s and I'll even go as far as to say I'm not the biggest fan of abs either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool thank you I finally got the part to get my engine working ! I needed a crankshaft pulley!I gotit off a D16a6 n found a crx with rear disc on it n I'm going for the seat when I get paid!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crx si seats = hotness
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no belt on my first EF sedan, and i fixed the leak and hooked it up, then later took it off again, the power gain was better than any intake could ever get you, i'm all for no power steering, none of my cars have it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
I had no belt on my first EF sedan, and i fixed the leak and hooked it up, then later took it off again, the power gain was better than any intake could ever get you, i'm all for no power steering, none of my cars have it.

1988 sedan 105k
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my dx didnt came with power steering. And im taking air out next summer when i get my ZC Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did option 1. when using my CRX manual rack. car doesnt seem to have any issues with the clearances yet.
course mine is also the DX rack and not the Si quicker one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will an 88 crx si steering rack work with a 90 sedan dx crossmember??  There is a junked 90 dx sedan around my way and i want to make sure the two can be used together before I attack the dx.   Very Happy

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