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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: changed head gasket car wont start... HELP!!!! |
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| So i changed my head gasket on my d15 sedan and now i cant get it to start. It turns over but not starting i went over all the wires and grounds and there all in tact if you got any ideas let me know, Im so ready to get this thing on the road again. |
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Ef3typeS 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| is the timing set correctly. it could be off by a tooth or so.. |
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Ef3typeS wrote: | | is the timing set correctly. it could be off by a tooth or so.. |
I put the cam gear at TDC before i took the timing belt off wouldnt that keep it in time? and if its off by a tooth wouldnt it just run bad? |
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cleanRENO90 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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is the crank at tdc?
is the rotor under the distributor cap pointing at the number 1 spark plug wire? _________________ WSC#1
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| cleanRENO90 wrote: | is the crank at tdc?
is the rotor under the distributor cap pointing at the number 1 spark plug wire? |
well the cam shaft ws at tdc when i put the timing belt on but since then it has turned over while i was trying to start it. So the distributor has moved |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Fixed? _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I wish |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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You can't just line it back up again? Make sure that the cams aren't 180* out. Or you'll be smashin valves left right and center. lol _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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TOPIC UPDATE
So i'm pretty sure that when i cleaned my valves with wd-40 before i put the head back on i soaked my spark plugs that i did not take out of my head and thats why it wont work. Im going to advance to get some plugs. update soon |
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| ok so i changed my spark plugs and still wouldnt start. as I was double checking all my tubes and plugs i noticed that my vaccuum hose had a huge corrosion hole in it and after taking it off the nipple was extremely clogged with corroded pieces of the old tube so im almost %100 sure that this is my problem because a engine without air will not idle. now i just have to find a replacement hose. Advance auto and pep boys dont have what i need so i think im going to honda in the morning, I can go to the junkyard and get one off a civic but i dont really want a used hose to just give me the same problem later. wish me luck! |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Where is the hose coming from? _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Where is the hose coming from? |
the middle of the intake manifold on top near the head and it take a sharp bend and goes down in to the block.It looks pretty important im almost certain that its a vaccum hose |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like the PCV (positve crankcase ventilation). Be careful not to break the valve which is attached to the IM when you replace the hose. _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Where is the hose coming from? |
Heres a picture of the hose
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, you have twin carbs!? _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Wait, you have twin carbs!? |
thats not my engine just one i found on google to show the tube i was talkin about i have the pgmfi, until i can find a d16 head |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, that hose isn't the same on the carbs, but If it's in that position it's a PCV hose. _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Hmm, that hose isn't the same on the carbs, but If it's in that position it's a PCV hose. |
yeah its in the exact position. if its the PCV hose and its broken, would it stop my car from starting? |
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Ef3typeS 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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i don't think a clogged PCV hose would stop it from starting....
Did you check if the timing was dead on again? thats the only thing that moved after you changed the head gasket...
I would redo the timing just to make sure if i where you.......
just my .02..... |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| cldblud wrote: | | ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Hmm, that hose isn't the same on the carbs, but If it's in that position it's a PCV hose. |
yeah its in the exact position. if its the PCV hose and its broken, would it stop my car from starting? |
No, i doubt it would run well though with a vacuum leak in the intake manifold. _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| ~Sp33~ wrote: | | cldblud wrote: | | ~Sp33~ wrote: | | Hmm, that hose isn't the same on the carbs, but If it's in that position it's a PCV hose. |
yeah its in the exact position. if its the PCV hose and its broken, would it stop my car from starting? |
No, i doubt it would run well though with a vacuum leak in the intake manifold. |
I didnt think so im convinced that its the timing, we will see today |
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cleanRENO90 4g4d Enthusiast

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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah got it runnin and no one told me that i needed to redo my head after i blew the gasket so it went right back to smoking because of a warped head. So now im on my way to charleston to get a mpfi d15 and start over with that |
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~Sp33~ Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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lol *facepalm* _________________
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cldblud 4g4d Enthusiast

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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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pretty much FML
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