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tenkaracole

The engines

Out of curiousity how many of you kept your D15B2, and how much power did you get out of it. And if you swapped a B in what were your reasons? Could we get some engine bay pics too? Very Happy  Wink  Cool
89CivicSi

kept my b2  Very Happy , on a table lol bein mated with either y8 or z6
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tenkaracole

nice!!! Very Happy  and good job with the quick reply
89CivicSi

Thanks Very Happy its not a b2 tho  Twisted Evil  anr your welcome,
4dred6

My B2 smoked a lot, swapd a Z6 and spun a bearing, then swapd a A6
And converted to mpfi. Then bought my gsr swap for cheap. I actually
Don't/want to race but I just wanted a B series, yea parts are more
Expensive but you have way more options. I personally wouldn't swap
A b series on a ef cuz you don't have any ground clearance when you
Slam it, I'm like 3/4 of an in from ground to tranny/ oil pan

B2




B17



B17
tenkaracole

nice engine bays! Very Happy  and 89civicsi you are twisted evil cant belive that i didnt notice that Sad  and I will come for you! Rolling Eyes  Laughing  Just kidding Laughing  (not really) Twisted Evil  Evil or Very Mad
tenkaracole

more engine bays please Cool  Very Happy
89CivicSi

hahaha heres the b2
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an yes I reused my vc  Razz
HondaJunkie

Kept my D15B2 and waiting to put on a d16a6 head. Im a d series fan so id say keep your b2 do some simple bolt ons.
89CivicSi

I am, I have a build thread if you haven't seen it, doin d15y8 high cr build
tenkaracole

Alright thanks guys I dont see why you need to swap engines? but i would like to see more pics! and what hp do your engine produce? Very Happy
89CivicSi

why not its still a ef motor, just more beefier  Twisted Evil  an not sure what hp im putting down yet
tenkaracole

Not you i think what your doing is awesome! Cool  I just dont understand the thing with the B series? and let me know when you find out how much power your getting, and how much your expecting! and can you direct me to your build thread.....cant find it?
89CivicSi

it under d15y8 build in project log, and ya I like my cars like I like my women with d's instead of b's  Cool
tenkaracole

haha thats hilarious!!!!!!!!!! Razz  and im going to look again and im sure i will find it! and you do realize D could stand for something else........think about it! Razz  Wink  Laughing
89CivicSi

Exactly  Cool
tenkaracole

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy  Very Happy  Shocked  Laughing  Laughing  Rolling Eyes  Embarassed  Razz  Cool  Laughing  Laughing  Very Happy
89CivicSi

now go find thread JOKER
tenkaracole

OK!!! OK!!!! be cool! I know the drill! (lays down on ground, places hand behind back and waits for cuffs) Tells my family I love Em!!! oh by the way found little while ago! interesting stuff! Razz  Now my turn.... JOKER  now you better do this  and you should have used this read
89CivicSi

Lol dirty pic whore did u atleast comment on build, or u just graze it lol
HondaJunkie

If your main goal is to make power then d series wouldn't be the motor I would choose. You will have a very hard time making power with a d series unless you build the short block and head.
89CivicSi

D's put out plenty of power when properly built, and also gotta take power to wieght ratio into affect, my d16a6 with mods that are area 51 top secret Smile can smoke a v8, how's that for power lol no turbo no nos, strictly n/a. Oh ya that was with 17s on it so gear ratio kinda was against me aswell Wink
HondaJunkie

89CivicSi wrote:
D's put out plenty of power when properly built, and also gotta take power to wieght ratio into affect, my d16a6 with mods that are area 51 top secret Smile can smoke a v8, how's that for power lol no turbo no nos, strictly n/a. Oh ya that was with 17s on it so gear ratio kinda was against me aswell Wink


They only put out plenty of power with forged internals and boosted as fuck otherwise you wont make anything over 200hp and that's a very long stretch. The reason im telling tenkaracole this is because by the time you build a d series with a lot of power you would have dumped a ton of money into it when you can simply buy a b series slap bolt ons and get it tuned and save half the cost it took you to build a d series. Don't get me wrong d series are my favorite motors by far but any Honda owner knows if you want power b series or k is where its at.
89CivicSi

I put down plenty of power from my d-series an its not true, u don't need to be turboed to make good power, ya forged internals are the way to go, but knowing how and what ur doin plus a proper tune an ur good, also like I stated before its also bout the power to weight ratio. am I baggin on b's or k's, no, would I own 1 maybe but not for a ef. and when somethi breaks on the b or k, it also breaks ur wallet as to d's don't.
HondaJunkie

We differ in opinions on this lol but it's all good to each his own.
89CivicSi

Yes sir an was good debate Smile
jon_akers

My d16z6 motor build cost me around $1200 for the parts and for machinework/assembly.
I was lucky enough to trade a lsx nitrous kit for my xs-power(read: shitty) turbo kit - so that saved me about a grand I'd say. (I got a tial wg and tial bov in the deal).

So I was low 14s for $2000 including the car and every insurance payment I made for a year and all the gas I ever put in it included.

The guy who bought it from me put a fuel pump ($99 usually) and ran 13 something on 13" wheels with crap douglas tires.


I would imagine a decent B swap would cost about the same.
HondaJunkie

jon_akers wrote:
My d16z6 motor build cost me around $1200 for the parts and for machinework/assembly.
I was lucky enough to trade a lsx nitrous kit for my xs-power(read: shitty) turbo kit - so that saved me about a grand I'd say. (I got a tial wg and tial bov in the deal).

So I was low 14s for $2000 including the car and every insurance payment I made for a year and all the gas I ever put in it included.

The guy who bought it from me put a fuel pump ($99 usually) and ran 13 something on 13" wheels with crap douglas tires.


I would imagine a decent B swap would cost about the same.


Depending on the B series you can snag them up around here easily for around $500-$1300 that's starting at a b18a1 and going to a b18c1 full swaps of course and a couple simple bolt ons and a tune on a b16 or c1 youll be good for a mid 14 second pass. That's a pretty nice time though for a z6 how much boost where you running to achieve that?
jon_akers

It was on 10 or 12psi on this craptastic turbo.

http://xs-power.com/turbos-7.htm
HondaJunkie

Nice that's around the size of turbo I like maybe the biggest id go  would be 63 trim which is what I had on my old crx hf. Im sure the build was fun I loved building my minime turbo but it was just costly to upkeep.
tenkaracole

D series in my opinion would be fun to build though but to each his own. Very Happy  and if power is what you want B and K are good but high power Ds are more respectable. and 89civicsi I am not a pic whore......Whores get paid Razz  

I so want to buy this hope link works. Very Happy
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/3663571087.html
tenkaracole

I wont be able to buy that car so if someone wants to make the trip..... or loan me a $1000 Razz  i wouldnt mind
EF4lyf3

tenkaracole wrote:
Not you i think what your doing is awesome! Cool  I just dont understand the thing with the B series? and let me know when you find out how much power your getting, and how much your expecting! and can you direct me to your build thread.....cant find it?


I'm almost positive you say this because you haven't driven a b-series car... What is the whole point of working on a car if you don't do something to the motor??? Isn't that the whole point?

Imagine it this way. Your at a light, a V8 pulls up next to you, and of course to him your just some rice burner/economy, tree hugging car driver...He revs, you don't, light turns green, you get him out the gate (power to weight ratio) and smash on him because to him, your just some little Honda...Not me my friend...not me. lol
EF4lyf3

Im a D-series man myself. but theres nothing like a beast ass B!!!
89CivicSi

iv driven a turboed b16, ya it was fun but parts, and failures are expensive and in long run cost more. now idk what motor ur talkin bout with the v8 at light, but sounds like what I do hahaha an they always do it to, like ur gonna be afraid of the loud rumble or something
HondaJunkie

EF4lyf3 wrote:
Im a D-series man myself. but theres nothing like a beast ass B!!!


Thank you  Cool
tenkaracole

I like B series why would I have wanted that B18 swapped sedan Rolling Eyes . but all Im saying is why not try to do that with a D series? cheaper parts, less hassle to get B engine around here,(I live in syracuse a town of 250 people!). and is there anybody out there who would thing a badass clean D series would be awesome Smile . I mean does anyone think they would ever spend the time and money to build a D. or go more powerful with a B. Just something to ponder? dont be hating I just learning, and sharing my opinion. Confused
89CivicSi

im gonna stick with the D-series
EF4lyf3

I was meant for this post right here!

I am pretty much all D-series ALL DAY.

The keys factors you must remember are:
Yes the parts are a dime a dozen
labor is cheap and easier
If you get beat by another car, Hey its just a d-series
If you beat another car, Hey its only a D-series haha
its somewhat lighter
And of all things, its under dog!

I could tell you things about D-series you didn't think existed and interchangeable parts no one knew they could use.

Problem is bro. you will sink a lot of money to get to a power goal that is just above or right below a B.

A 200hp single cam is BEASTTT
but a 200hp B is only quick. See where im getting at?

I will never forsake my Ds but if im gonna be doing a serious drag competition, im going B or K or H
Im going autoX so my little D is going to be perfect at 200hp with those turns and corners..I hope this helped. Any questions just ask...(don't go to D-series.org, there a bunch of cocks over there)
EF4lyf3

tenkaracole wrote:
I like B series why would I have wanted that B18 swapped sedan Rolling Eyes . but all Im saying is why not try to do that with a D series? cheaper parts, less hassle to get B engine around here,(I live in syracuse a town of 250 people!). and is there anybody out there who would thing a badass clean D series would be awesome Smile . I mean does anyone think they would ever spend the time and money to build a D. or go more powerful with a B. Just something to ponder? dont be hating I just learning, and sharing my opinion. Confused


ANd I didn't mean to sound like a dick if I was. I work in an office and email higher ups and VPs of companies allday so my assertion and professionalism has to be up to par!  Wink  Very Happy
tenkaracole

I think I probably will, unless i buy a car with a B series already in it.
EF4lyf3

Im sticking with my D as well. But if I come into some money or something, best believe I getting something super sick...Might even donate to the site to help the less fortunate get parts  Very Happy
tenkaracole

Im less fortunate, dont even technically have a car. Sad  wanna donate one Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
EF4lyf3

if I had one to donate I would buuuut I don't Sad when are you getting yours man?
tenkaracole

when i can. go to general discussion and look at thread tittled how much should i spend and look at that, sorry never posted pics. im going to save up every dollar and hopefully buy it before the end of summer! thats my storry so read and learn. Very Happy
89CivicSi

hey you watch your tone mister Twisted Evil
EF4lyf3

hahahaha
tenkaracole

dont make me go to the south and kick your @ss!!!!!!!!! LOL! Very Happy
89CivicSi

U wanna get grounded don't you
tenkaracole

Bitch please Cool
EF4lyf3

LMMFAOROFL
89CivicSi

kneel  this will tenkaracole after I remove my belt haha
89CivicSi

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cleaning for wire tuck
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that's right 3yr old knows how to wash a car correctly Smile
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oh howd that get in here  Twisted Evil
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89CivicSi

sorry imageshack owned me on this post
EF4lyf3

Clean!!!
89CivicSi

haha yup
jmanwantsboost

I once had a 90 integra rs, and I loved the b series it packed. But I love my D because I get 40 mpg. I'd love to build a higher compression one with vtec, itbs, and a fat, lumpy cam lol. Just a fun daily that still owns the has pump. If want an ls I'll buy a teggy
FlatTireRacer



My contribution. Not finished, but should be soon.
EF4lyf3

thats pretty clean man! Love the offset valvecover color.
FlatTireRacer

Thanks! It actually matches up with the interior color really well.
EF4lyf3

with my current colors im going to do my valve cover black and gold and really almost everything that combination.  Wire tuck coming soon as well
jmanwantsboost

I once had a 90 integra rs, and I loved the b series it packed. But I love my D because I get 40 mpg. I'd love to build a higher compression one with vtec, itbs, and a fat, lumpy cam lol. Just a fun daily that still owns the has pump. If want an ls I'll buy a teggy
tenkaracole

Nice valve cover! love the blue! Very Happy  and EF4lyf3 that sounds sick! Cool  Hopefully pics soon! Cool
FlatTireRacer

tenkaracole wrote:
Nice valve cover! love the blue! Very Happy


Thanks man!!
EF4lyf3

tenkaracole wrote:
Nice valve cover! love the blue! Very Happy  and EF4lyf3 that sounds sick! Cool  Hopefully pics soon! Cool


Thank you sir, ill be doing write ups on everything I do to my car now, unless its common sense stuff lol. That way the noobs can learn everything they want to do to their car the semi-proper way hahah. I want to continue to contribute to the gentlemen of this site!
89CivicSi

banana
tenkaracole

is it sad that the bananas are better dancers than me? Sad  Sad  Sad
89CivicSi

yes yes it is
EF4lyf3

lmao
89CivicSi

my bay looks so beautiful now  Very Happy
EF4lyf3

pics or its not true hahaha
89CivicSi

psh gimme a min with her  Wink
89CivicSi

an Ef4lyf3 you know its beautiful your the only one to be getting hourly updates haha
89CivicSi

told you its beautiful
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EF4lyf3

89CivicSi wrote:
an Ef4lyf3 you know its beautiful your the only one to be getting hourly updates haha


Very true. you've been updating like all weekend hahah so i bleieve you lmao. Super clean tho man. Very Happy
89CivicSi

pu once I get that battery out of there it will be super clean and wont have my massive fuse for the stereo in there lol
EF4lyf3

lol Yea you are right about that.
89CivicSi

haha its a massive ANL 100amp fuse for my stereo
tenkaracole

not bad LOL!!!! but ya need to paint your valve cover! Confused  Razz
tenkaracole

rather repaint!!! LOL!!!!!!!! Very Happy  Surprised
89CivicSi

why repaint it??
EF4lyf3

its his style pimp.! Very Happy
89CivicSi

lol clean it maybe, paint it never!! its blood red with domo on it, and when the bay gets painted baby blue, it will look sick
tenkaracole

Gotta keep it pimpin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool  Cool  Cool
89CivicSi

very true
tenkaracole

Ya buddy Cool  Cool  Cool
tenkaracole

Can someone tell me how much power you can get from a mini-me conversion? and what your thoughts on a mini-me conversion are? also what does changing the compression on a car do? and what the heck is a stroker kit? and whats it do? Confused
tenkaracole

Also, strange question but... how much does a complete D15B2 weigh?  Shocked  And how much horsepower could be expected out of one with a aftermarket camshaft and intake manifold? sounds like a good idea! Cool
89CivicSi

stock dpfi is 92hp and its around 200lbs not to sure all I know is I can load one in trunk alone
tenkaracole

What about any of my other questions anybody on here lately! LOL! and thanks 89civicsi! need to get your real name cause i get tired of typing in 89civicsi!!!!!!! Mad
89CivicSi

gonna have some new bay pics up tomorrow Smile just bout to finish the new addition for it, just a lil bit more baking and its done. Twisted Evil
tenkaracole

SEXY! Cool
89CivicSi

4dred6

Confused
89CivicSi

lol dont hate
4dred6

haha not hating i actually like it. but i don't understand why you would post that in here, why not post it in the the bay thread.
89CivicSi

becuase this is the engines thread is it not lol i didnt do anythin to the bay yet.
tenkaracole

NICE! Very Happy  Maybe I should post a pic of my trucks bay! Shocked  NO! Baling wire isn't sexy! Laughing  Crying or Very sad

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