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urbsallday

Step two: Wheels and Tires

So now that i've made up my mind on coil overs hopefully you all can clear up some question I have about wheels and tires. Right now i'm planning on rocking Enkei 92's 15x8 with a +25 offset. First off will my sedan be able to fit the +25 offset? (not too sure how offset works) I do plan on rolling my fenders. Second what type of tire will fit that wheel well. I've been reading online 195/45/15 or 195/50/15 for a decent stretch but nothing too crazy (I want the tire to fit flush with the lip of the wheel, none of that lip sticking out BS). Last which tires stretch the best at a reasonable price. I don't want to spend more than $100 a tire. I've heard good things about Falken and Toyo. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
89ef2

Thumbs up for falken
urbsallday

I was hoping someone would say that. I've seen them on plenty of cars and they always look good. Which Falkens are good? I've heard ziex 512 but I didn't see them on their website.
89civicracer

Got Falken's on both my cars and both sets of wheels for the civic.  Laughing  512's have been disc.. I have 912's on my cars.
FlatTireRacer

I wouldn't run a Falken if my life depended on it. I love Toyo's. Had really good luck with Nitto's and Dunlops too. I have done Auto-X on all of them and the Toyos worked best.
urbsallday

I thought about Toyos but there on the pricey side for my budget. FlatTire why won't you run Falkens? Can you please elaborate. Thanks for the input guys. Will I be okay with +25 offset running 15x8?
FlatTireRacer

I put a new set on the rear of a CRX I had once and in a spirited driving session on the highway I made a quick lane change and nearly turned sideways @65mph. I gave them the benifit of the doubt and thought, 'maybe they just need to be broken in a little better'. Drove on em for about a week and nothing changed. Rotated them to the fronts and experienced nasty oversteer issues. Don't get me wrong, they made for great straight-line drag racing tires because on a launch they had a great hook-up but as for cornering, I will personally never put another Falken on a car I own. Other's may have great success with them but for me they just do not fit my driving style.
FlatTireRacer

urbsallday wrote:
I thought about Toyos but there on the pricey side for my budget. FlatTire why won't you run Falkens? Can you please elaborate. Thanks for the input guys. Will I be okay with +25 offset running 15x8?


A friend of mine just picked up a set of 16x8 +25 XXR's and they do stick out a little on his EF hatch but with a little camber and some fender rolling the ones he has can be tucked away nice and neat.
89civicracer

Guess it depends on the driving you are going to do.. If you are going to speed race from work home and your commute is your obstacle course, scca, or track the car, then for sure, get another tire.. There are way better ones for that type of driving.  If you just want a comfortable ride, i have never had issues with my 912's.

just my .02.

Agreed, +25 will require fender rolling and camber to tuck them properly. It can be done, just takes time and work.
urbsallday

Okay cool. As far as the tires go its gonna be my DD with no plans of racing anytime soon, ill be rockin the d15 for a while. 92 hp FTW.  I already planned on getting a skunk2 camber kit and my fenders rolled later this month. Thanks for the help dudes. The last thing is tire size for a stretch. I was thinking about 195/45/15 on 15x8 wheels. I want it to be flush with the wheel lip with that low pro look. None of that lip poking out tire barely on look. Any suggestions?
nanotech



That's basically how offset works. Lets assume the wheel in the first picture  (left to right) is 15x8 +25. The red line down the centre of the wheel is the centre which means there is 4" of lip either side.
The red centreline is 0 offset meaning it's dead int he middle of the width. Assuming the first picture is a 15x8 +25 wheel, the +25 represents 25mm. This means that the mounting face of the rim that sits against the hub is exactly 25mm from the centreline away from the car. Because it's positive offset it will sit closer to the car.
Conversely, if we take the last picture we could assume the wheel might be 15x8 -25. The negative represents the mounting face will be 25mm closer to the car.
A low offset or negative offset will poke out further increasing the total track of the car.
A high offset will mean the wheels will sit a lot closer to the car decreasing/narrowing the total track.

I hope this helps you  Smile

By the way, 195/45/15 isn't a huge stretch on an 8" wheel, you should be fine.
Here is a pic:
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4dred6

I just lol when poeple refer to low offset wheels when they say they
have offsets.   You ask them what offset are their wheels and they dont
even know they just tell you they are offset.  Laughing
nanotech

Shocked are you serious...

I hear a lot of people refer to low offset wheels as 'big offset' LOL
4dred6

Very Happy
urbsallday

Thanks for the input. Anyone ever run federal tires? They're a lot cheaper than Toyos I just heard they look slightly meatier when stretched.
4dred6

I have them but I haven't used them on the road yet. 165/50/15 on a 15x8 wheel. Nice stretch
urbsallday

Red you got any pics of that stretch. I was planning 195/45/15. Curios to see your size tire on 15x8's.
nanotech

165/50/15 on an 8" is a big stretch lol!





Thats full blown prolapse

*edit*
Nothing against stretch, but piece of advice though. Don't do it unless you need to, otherwise you will have less tyre contact to road for no reason.
jmanwantsboost

I just don't get it that looks sketchy as hell. I'd like to run a 205, but idk how it would fit.
urbsallday

Not down with that stretch. I agree it looks sketchy and unsafe (no offense). 195/45/15 is what I'm looking for. If anyone has a pic of federals that size on a 15x8 I'd appreciate it.
4dred6

Its cool. It would be boring if we all went the same route. As for the 195/45s you can go to tyrestretch.com and see how it looks.
urbsallday

Yeah I looked on tyrestretch and they don't show Federals stretched. I wanna see them because I heard they are a little meatier than Toyos stretched at that size and the toyo look secksie.

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