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JAP SEDAN MAN

Jap EF3 Si sedan B16 project

well it a jap Si 90  1.6 dohc non vtec (who wants tat)  so i had to do IT!  
rebuilt b16 itr cams
innovative swap mounts
EF9 drives gear linkage
S1 cable box
using the Si hubs & brakes for now...
pulled the engine back out paint bay gold/yellow
started prep for respray
want to be finished for july (hopefully) job allowing

more pics up soon




90EFSedan

DAMN! I think I got a woodie  Embarassed  That is definitely a sexy ride  Smile
EF Sedan Enthusiast

Hell yeah man  Twisted Evil
d16efsedan

nice!!!!
89 LX SOHC ZC

sweet!
C-Rex

Welcom man good to see ya here..
JAP SEDAN MAN

Thanks for commemts all welcome

i hav aload more pics i will  upload shortly!  
car has back end stripped at the min...
De-spoilered & chrome gone from back   underneath has jus been waxoiled  am in process of painting running gear! replacing all bushing (RS poly bushes) new discs & pads all round
am thinking of going gold with stripe on car...?
the spoon reps are gone am looking for sumthing dishy for it
car has primer patches on it waiting for touch up on paint staying BLACK!   need new coilovers & camber kit for her if any IRISH LADS SELLING ANY?
JAP SEDAN MAN

JAP SEDAN MAN

had to do sum minor cancer surgery  very rust free shell



JAP SEDAN MAN

help needed  
the engine is EG6 obd-1  
if two choices   get a load of obd-0 dohc sensors

or  wire the  obd-1 sensors on to the obd-0 Si loom  any info on this..?
 will be big help to me plz  lads am trying keep costs down
C-Rex

Wish mine was a s rust free as that!!

As for the looom its hard to call myself and Brian are going with full obd0 swaps from EFs..

If I was you Id try get a full b16 engine and aux parts from an ef and its pretty much plug and play just have to bring a feed to the vtec solenoid
JAP SEDAN MAN

im going obd-0 yeah it is possible to stay 0 and wire the obd-1 sensors on to the loom  if  i had good directions to do it!

THE LINK IN THE INFO SECTION DOES NOT WORK FOR ME

i already hav obd-1 loom from the EG6 engine
prob be easiest to get obd-0 loom and sensors alri
jus trying save cash ye know
88browncow

Im liking what I am seeing. Gotta get rid of some cacer myself.
~Sp33~

That's sweet dude, nice.
JAP SEDAN MAN

it took me awhile to find a good shell that was not rotten!    i got this Si with a perfect D16A9 in it  for  $750   Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  was chuffed when i pulled apart to look for rust!!!
90EFSedan

Thats not bad at all in my opinion.. I really don't think I'd mind a little cancer surgery if I got it that cheap. Was the motor solid or did it need a rebuild?
JAP SEDAN MAN

THE D16A9 WAS RUNNIG LIKE CHAMP    i took out straight away tho and got my rebuilt b16!  
can any1 shed sum light on wiring situation??? hav searched with no good results!! this my 1st vtec swap so HELP plz
89civicracer

I Like this car in black!
Very Happy
C-Rex

Ask Brian hes done the exact same conversion could shed some light Idea
JAP SEDAN MAN

C-Rex  yeah was hoping he could share some info alri! no reply tho  Sad
i picked up some rear camber arms yesterday  Very Happy
and a new EG6  black leather steering wheel... i really like the wheel in the car looks good pic shortly
JAP SEDAN MAN

received PM from br- should be able to get my head around wiring issuse now  Very Happy  Very Happy
KNoTTo

awesome !
JAP SEDAN MAN

SORTED  found a sweet DIY article on HT for 0bd-0 obd-1 conversion  harness (comprehensive pin out)! (any1 needs info PM me)
New pics in ten min front and back bumpers re-painted,
car polished
stripe painted GOLD  
calipiers painted gold  
had a busy week!  Very Happy
JAP SEDAN MAN

need to comfrim these few sensors on my d16a9 loom (PM7 ECU) and there destinationon the b16a..  if any one can help
from  left to right its a
2 wire Yellow/green & Black
1 wire yellow/green
1 wire yellow/red



2 wire plug on the right
Green/white  Red/white

JAP SEDAN MAN

I'm doing obd-1 converison at the min & tucking the loom  
Trying find best place for the fuse box with out doing too much modifiying of the interior loom

~Sp33~

JAP SEDAN MAN wrote:
need to comfrim these few sensors on my d16a9 loom (PM7 ECU) and there destinationon the b16a..  if any one can help
from  left to right its a
2 wire Yellow/green & Black
1 wire yellow/green
1 wire yellow/red



Off the top of my head, the 2 on the left are for an oil sensor on the back of the block, the single wire one plugs in next to the other two, but is for coolant temp sensor (not sender, coolant temp sender is the one on the right)

JAP SEDAN MAN wrote:


The plug on the right is IAT (Intake air temp sensor)
JAP SEDAN MAN

think hav it sorted the bottom pic the plug on right Red/white Green/white is TW and goes to ECT below vtec soilnoid
top pic two wire is fan swtich and goes to plug on thermosat  
the 1 wire yellow red goes to senors near oil filter.  (oil presure)
the single yelow green has me stumped..?  there is a single pin conection to to the left of vtec soilnoid oil temp?
~Sp33~

JAP SEDAN MAN wrote:
think hav it sorted the bottom pic the plug on right Red/white Green/white is TW and goes to ECT below vtec soilnoid
top pic two wire is fan swtich and goes to plug on thermosat  
the 1 wire yellow red goes to senors near oil filter.  (oil presure)
the single yelow green has me stumped..?  there is a single pin conection to to the left of vtec soilnoid oil temp?


Hmm i have no idea how they mate up to the B series. I was just looking at what they connect to on my ZC (uses the same loom as the d16a9).

The one you're talking about on my motor sends a signal for the temp gauge.
JAP SEDAN MAN

thanx SP man to the gauge is what i was thinking  does it go to the single pin conection to the left of the vtec soilnoid can any one confrim??

i hav confrimed the rest!
JAP SEDAN MAN

there doesnt seem to be a wire for my exaust O2 (single white)  can u help me out SP33 where is it on ur loom the chassis half?
JAP SEDAN MAN

yellow green to single pin for gauge oil temp is correct! Very Happy
JAP SEDAN MAN

I SEE SAID THE BLIND MAN!  some Si civics came with no 02 and cat.. CORRECT?
JAP SEDAN MAN

hoping to have car back together and running by end of month (if hav enuf time to work on it.)
a sneak peak of bumper with new coulour stripe


brakes to match



small pannels took hours to sort both were badly bent out shape

89civicracer

Car is coming along...  Razz
~Sp33~

The primary O2 sprouts out of my loom next to the prongs for the reverse lights. It should be grouped together with the wiring that goes under your distributor. So that CTS, 02, reverse wires and the single prong wire for the temp gauge.

JAP SEDAN MAN wrote:
I SEE SAID THE BLIND MAN!  some Si civics came with no 02 and cat.. CORRECT?


Oooooh the d16a9 didn't have a cat, that's right. I would think that they have an 02 though....
~Sp33~

Here's a pic i found of a d16a9, appears to have a primary o2 sensor.



D16a9 (no cat)

89civicracer

Steve is the resource..hahaha!  Very Happy
JAP SEDAN MAN

yeah its not there man.  There was  DC Sports 4-2-1 mani on the car car i got it so must hav been removed
Proper282

The DC manifold usually relocates the o2 sensor to the area just before the flange. If it were removed I would imagine the car would get pretty crappy fuel economy...
JAP SEDAN MAN

DEFO NO 02 in my loom.
SP33 how many wires do u hav goin to ur dizzy plug
iv only got 5 wires were there should be 6!
if i run an 02 to c18 on ECU with a sheided wire yeah.. ground the sheild to sensor grounds for TPS,IVAC, (GREEN/WHITE) OR TO THE GROUNDS DIRECTLTY TO THE TERMOSAT??  does the sheild need to be grounded both sides of the harness plugs or just engine side!  is it the o2 thats missing from me dizzy?
~Sp33~

The squarish distributor plug only has 5 wires.

I looked at the service manual and it says to bridge A18 (negative) with c16 (positive) to check the voltages from the o2 sensor. I don't think there is a c18?

Not sure if that helps!
JAP SEDAN MAN

YEA I PROB HAV PIN NUMBER WRONG I HAV IT WROTE DOWN SUM WERE ITS THE LAST 2 ON C anyway
my car is running a pm7 ecu yeah is ur a pm6
~Sp33~

Mine is PM7
JAP SEDAN MAN

jus checked there is a wire in c16 but no wire in engine half of loom on my round 14pin plug iv got 2pins with no wire do u?
the pin out im working from reckon there should 6wires in me dizzy maybe its a typo
~Sp33~

I'll have to check this out later when i get home.

Distributor definitely only has 5 prongs though (there's an empty spot on the 6th)
JAP SEDAN MAN

Thanks man i need get this wrapped up and get it driving it   Cool
JAP SEDAN MAN

sorted just hav to add me 4 wire 02 and run the CPS wires in2 the vtec dizzy thats the wires i missing
all other connections sorted present and correct  
jus plug a p30 into the jumper harness and fire it up (fingers crossed)
C-Rex

Getting ready for July then?
JAP SEDAN MAN

Cool  ohh yeah.. il be there dont think i will be painted by then but will be running! (hav bumpers painted & prob will do bonnet & roof b4 then)
 need to sort some nice wheels in between now then.
i bhought a solder iron last week  and  got to work tucking the loom the engine harness enters cabin on passo side now and plugs in behind centre console were the fuse box new home is aswell ,head light looms tucked,
i removed ALB/PS/AC INJECTOR RESISTOR BOX ALL removed from bay so iv a couple holes to fill in a bit of painting left under the hood and then il be happy
C-Rex

Nice one we'lll get a bit of a sedan photo shoot going so..

Will have mine there too and hope to get a few more lads there too
JAP SEDAN MAN

ok last thing to clear up..
iv an S1 4.4fd gearbox i want to use,
the speed sensor looks like this (iv never seen another like tis)


this one from a Y1 gearbox i hav
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should be a straight swap yes?? can any1 forsee an prob?
i know bottom half is not exact same (is in diameter) and it fits in the box sooo.....  should be ok yes?
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~Sp33~

If the diameter is different i'd be concerned that the speed that it's reading is going to be wrong.
JAP SEDAN MAN

Sp33 ur on the ball man thanks again for ur imput
Diameter is the same teeth count is the same  jus the wheel its self is larger! as u can see  i m thinking it will  be alright
JAP SEDAN MAN

il keep u busy on the site man yeah... Very Happy
mitsubishiv5

so since steve is getting the wiring diagrams for this engine, wouldnt it be fair to ask if you can source the pinout for the ef2 35xt cluster?
JAP SEDAN MAN

Question  are u asking me or steve for that mate? i dont hav 1 for it either way!
mitsubishiv5

both of you guys? i just need the pinout, even if its just a plain picture of the plugs at the back of the cluster on the jdm cluster :/
JAP SEDAN MAN

ITS grand when things work out for ye!! ha (dont happen too often)  
The speed sensor that was in the S1 is a cable speedo pick up..
That means i will be using this instead with the orignal speedo cable,  witch means i do not hav change or go near my clocks!
Very happy bout this as there only 134,000kms on the car and clocks    Very Happy
4dred6

whats up with this project? any updates?
~Sp33~

4dred6 wrote:
whats up with this project? any updates?


x2
ilove(.)(.)

nice car, but last post is from 5/11.

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