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ksconekiller

How to disable power steering?

I've seen the writeups about changing the power rack to a manual one to get non-power steering, but is there a way to disable the power rack without replacing it?  I'm not terribly familiar with power steering, as this is the first car I've had with it.  I hate the lack of feel, so I want to get rid of it.  If I can do it without tearing too much apart, I'd be interested in that.  Has anyone here done this?

Thanks,
Mike
89civicracer

Really. . I love my Power Steering. .
I've driven civics without. . it is a bitch to turn. . .cannot see not having it. .
jkgonzalez3

the first time i just took off the belt for PS but then the fluid started over flowing lol

so i just removed the pump and fluid container and cut the lines then used some barb fittings (i thinks that's the name) to tie the 3 hoses together.

i am planing to take off the rack and hopefully find some An fittings that will fit and hide every thing better.
JDQCIVIC4DR

power steering rack with the without( disconnected ) power steering pump its a bitch to park but really fun driving fast on sharp turns. people that drive my car who dont have powersteering love driving it for daily use. heres my theory if the car came with keep. if its a full race or weekend track car dont keep it.
Xian

Pulling PS on a street car seems like more trouble than it's worth, IMO.  If you're set own doing it, the easiest way is to take off the pump and fluid reservoir.  With the car in the air, turn the wheel back and forth to pump most of the fluid out of the rack (it'll come out of the hoses that are unattached).  Take the lines from the rack and connect them together with a barb fitting and clamps.  This should keep the rack from leaking any fluid and looping the lines together will make it easier to allow fluid and air to be displaced as you steer.

Christian, who's got PS on his race car.
ksconekiller

Very simple reason-- the power steering on this car eliminates all of the road feel because it is overboosted.  It's pretty terrible.  I have an 89 Civic Si without power steering on sticky street tires that I have no trouble turning.
91EFCIVIC

I just pulled the power steering parts and found some plugs for the rack  in my sedan. Haven't had any trouble with it and it feels alot better IMO.
Clipse

You know what feels even better?  A manual R&P!  I'm going to put mine back in as soon as I can afford new tie rods.
Mr.ef2sedan

swap out my power steering  ages ago, put in a  new manual r&p works great try it.
Clipse

Mr.ef2sedan wrote:
swap out my power steering  ages ago, put in a  new manual r&p works great try it.


no replacement!
br-

Thats what i'm planning on doing, taking out the p/s and rack and putting in a manual rack!!
Clipse

br- wrote:
Thats what i'm planning on doing, taking out the p/s and rack and putting in a manual rack!!


Do it!
LsdailySedan

i bought a manual rack just havent put it in yet cause i cant afford the allignment after i do it
ef9racer

the fastest way is to remove the pump and res. then loop the lines
C-Rex

God Bless my old basic GL..

No Power Steering
No Aircon
No ABS
No Electric Windows Cool
jkgonzalez3

wait you guys talking about a manual rack (R&P) ??

out of a sedan or hatch? cause i believe that the sedan p/s has a shorter lock ratio then a manual hatch and is easier to turn.
Clipse

jkgonzalez3 wrote:
wait you guys talking about a manual rack (R&P) ??

out of a sedan or hatch? cause i believe that the sedan p/s has a shorter lock ratio then a manual hatch and is easier to turn.


no manual racks have shorter lock to locks due to them being stiffer when at a stop.
jkgonzalez3

I am pretty sure that power steering racks have a shorter lock to lock.

i tested that shit out in my homies hatch about 3 homies said that my sedans steering was better.
~Sp33~

Clipse wrote:
jkgonzalez3 wrote:
wait you guys talking about a manual rack (R&P) ??

out of a sedan or hatch? cause i believe that the sedan p/s has a shorter lock ratio then a manual hatch and is easier to turn.


no manual racks have shorter lock to locks due to them being stiffer when at a stop.


The manual ones are more locks to lock, better mechanical advantage that way. If it where shorter it would be even more difficult.
br-

Just bumping this up.. I'm pretty sure it was on here i seen a picture of someone who had removed the p/s and had just got a bit of hose and looped it around 2 fittings but I can't seem to find it again maybe it was in a build up thread or something??
HRspec

p/s rack definately has a shorter ratio  Wink

I prefer not too have power steering myself.

You can get a quaife quick steering rack for the lhd crx/civic 88-91 sadly not the rhd jdm/edm cars though.

http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/vi...p?idcategory=0&idproduct=1877
HRspec

Sorry br- didnt notice you bumped the thread about another question.
Mr.ef2sedan

HRspec wrote:
p/s rack definately has a shorter ratio  Wink

I prefer not too have power steering myself.

You can get a quaife quick steering rack for the lhd crx/civic 88-91 sadly not the rhd jdm/edm cars though.

http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/vi...p?idcategory=0&idproduct=1877


i see these at jhpusa all the time Very Happy  good deal

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