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K3Nguru

1989 EE5 Real Time 4WD

Hi there! I'm new here and my name is Tommi. I'm a Honda enthusiast from Finland and quite well-known in the European S2000 scene. You can blame Steve (~Sp33~) for this write-up as he directed me here from CIVIC SEDAN 4WD Facebook page.

After a long search, I found myself a very rare EE5 4WD Civic from the other side of Finland. The European model EE5 was made between 1989 and 1991. Mine is MY89 with VIN JHMEE55600S100012. The sequence number is 100012 but they could start at 100000 or 100001. Anyway, my car could be one of the first. The registration document shows that it was registered in 00.00.1989. It comes with D16A6 SOHC PGM-FI engine and curb weight is 1070 kg. The transmission ratios are as follows:
SL. 4,512
I. 3,384
II. 1,950
III. 1,275
IV. 0,941
V. 0,783
R. 3,000

Final Drive:
Front 4,428
Rear 2,529

The odometer just turned 252000 kms (~157000 miles). I'm the fifth owner of the car. The first owner kept it until 2010 and the next enthusiast had it until last summer. After that it had two owners who only had it for a couple of months and didn't want to invest more in it. Sadly, the previous owner bumped the rear end to something the there are lots of dents around the body. It has also been patch painted quite badly. At first, I'll have to sort out the rust issues. I really wish that the body is salvageable but we'll see that later. I haven't even had time to lift the car and check the underbody. Good news is that it drives like new.







The roof liner is hanging quite badly...


Mishap by previous owner requires a spare rear quarter panel and rear door Sad. You may also see ripped driver's seat




I'll need to sort out these and wheel arches




I called a couple of previous owners and they told me that the underbody is in quite a good condition for a Finnish car that old. Luckily it has been undersealed.


Sorry, I don't have better interior pics yet.


The previous owner had a dog and you can see some marks in the interior. Unfortunately, the original steering wheel is gone it's replaced by smaller tuning model... I don't even dare to open the sunroof as it may be stuck. Drivers electric mirror isn't working but I think that the connector under the door upholstery is loose. It's -15 degrees Celsius outside so I don't want to try to fix it and risk snapping something. Driver's heated seat isn't working either but it must be down to quick fix of the upholstery or disconnected plug. Anyway, I'll buy a spare FWD Civic with a friend of mine and get spare parts from it.

I seem to have no engine bay shots Surprised. I'll sort it out asap. The darkness is my problem on working days. It's dark when I go to work and it's dark when I go back home. Another reason of me being lazy capturing photos is that it's snowy and icy out there. I'd rather spend my time drifting on snow.

My EE5 is in a sorry state and that's why I call it "Rotisko". The English translation of it could be clunker Very Happy. It's an opposite of my S2000 Cool.

PS. Three friends of mine have an EE5 and one has EE4. I wish to see all of them on HCoF (Honda Club of Finland) icetrack days in late! There are tops 5 EE5s in Finland and not many in Europe.
TheGreatBacon

So awesome, I love the front bumper guards! Welcome!
89ef2

TheGreatBacon wrote:
So awesome, Welcome!
EF Sedan Enthusiast

I'm glad Steve directed you our way.  Love your sedan even in the condition it's in.  I have the headlight washer kit if you're interested.
~Sp33~

Glad you made it over here mate! Thanks for posting up, the more 4wd sedans the merrier.  Cool
K3Nguru

Thanks guys. I don't want to invest much on this so no need for headlight washer kit. I'd rather fill the holes in case they start to bother me.

I noticed an interesting thing the other day. There's no engine code stamped on my VIN plate. There's just the chassis code. I only found D16A and engine number from the left side of the exhaust manifold. I was dusty so there might be number six after the D16A but it looks like I have a JDM engine on mine and it's one of the first EE5s that have rolled from the Suzuka factory. I just asked my friends whether they have their engine numbers on the type plate & does it stand D16A6 on the block. I can't wait for their replies!

I also phoned a couple of previous owners. The clutch is done only 20 tkms, the radiator is almost new, the alternator is new, both front driveshaft outer joints changed 1tkm ago, brake pads and shoes almost new.

I'll change the oils soon. Are you guys using 5w-40 or what. I really need 5w as it's -24 degrees Celsius outside at the moment and temperatures of -35 degrees are annual. I'm not going to invest on 0w-40, that's for sure. The gearbox feels quite notchy when cold but improves after a few minutes. There is fresh Liqui Moly fluid in it but I'll try Honda fluids as I've found them the best. MFT-3 should be good for gearbox. Is Hypoid (SAE 90 GL5) the right oil for the rear diff?

The other news is that my front tyre leaks. My front tyres are Chinese brand Wanli (Winter-Challenger) and they're horrible. The rears are Nokian Hakkapeliitta 2 studded tyres. Luckily I have three good old Hakkapeliitta 2s (155/80 R13) lying around. Those tyres are from my long gone 88 Corolla and they're the same size & brand as the rears Very Happy.
4dred6

Welcome to the site, you have a nice sedan.
Robb

Amazing car 4WD CIVIC SEDAN ! Now this is rare !
I like the rare options it has.
Heated front seats !

If you ever part out the car, you can make some good money !

Check out my 88 sedan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robcrx/sets/
K3Nguru

Robb wrote:
Amazing car 4WD CIVIC SEDAN ! Now this is rare !
I like the rare options it has.
Heated front seats !

If you ever part out the car, you can make some good money !

Check out my 88 sedan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robcrx/sets/


Thanks mate. I could possibly have some heated seats switches and elements from Finnish scrapyards if there's interest.

Your sedan looks very clean indeed! I love the CRX and Civic hatch too. I have a weak spot for CRXs and a friend of mine has had many of them. There are a couple of 4wd converted turbo CRXs in Finland. They're quite rapid. Very Happy
K3Nguru

I had a closer look at my car on Sunday. The trunk is in surprisingly good condition:




I found the tools and a bushing.


Some rust behind the tools


The tools are a bit rusty Laughing


More rust on the other rear arch


Tyre off, notice the yellow gearbox Shocked


Front wheel arch rust


There seems to be some leak. I just need find out where...




Old and "new" tyre


Confused


Grounding at some point






It's history Very Happy


I'll change the fluids next week: 5w-40 engine oil, MTF-3 for gearbox, Hypoid diff oil, Honda power steering fluid and ATE Super Blue brake fluid. The power steering doesn't work when started cold at temperatures below -15 degrees Celsius. There's some water condensation in the fluid as the power steering starts working after a few minutes of driving.
~Sp33~

Looks like uve got nails in your tyres lol. Never seen a studded tyre before Smile
EF Sedan Enthusiast

It's a must in some parts of the world.
Robb

Ya, we all need the front heated seats ! Find that for us !
I also need the rear tail light cover plastics in trunk... in nice shape.
Mine are scratched !
89civicracer

Nice car.. would love one of those over here, but, i can only live vicariously through you and Steve.. Smile
4dred6

I want awd  Sad
K3Nguru

Cheers guys! The majority of Finns use studded winter tyres. They're prohibited in most of the European contries. Those Nokian tyres are brilliant; they have friction surface and studs on top of it. I have just friction type Nokian winter tyres on my ES5 Civic.

Robb, I could find heated seats from scrapyard but shipping to Canada, for example, is going to cost quite a bit. Sad

4dred6, I feel your pain. I can't imagine my life without 4wd anymore. I don't want to drive my ES5 when it's slippery outside. I prefer snow drifting with 4wd Very Happy. Speaking of drifting, I'm going have an icetrack day on Sunday (track made on a lake) Cool. 89civicracer, I'll upload a few footages to so you can live more vicariously Razz. I'm slightly concerned about the suspension play on the nearside front corner. I think that it's a wheel bearing on its last legs as I can hear it when driving. It could also be something else as the drive is a bit bouncy when cold. However, that could be related to my power steering fluid issue. I wish that the bearing will last until Monday.
K3Nguru

I have sourced a donor car candidate 300 kms away from me. Use an online translator to translate it in English if you wish. Robb, I don't know whether the tail light covers are present and no idea about condition. I don't even have those covers on my car. It has heated seats and electric windows too. I'd rather wait for a car with 1.6 l engine. However, I like the idea to have a straight rear door in the right colour. It could do until I get the rust and damaged pieces cutted off.

PS. The link may not be valid for long.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
I have sourced a donor car candidate 300 kms away from me. Use an online translator to translate it in English if you wish. Robb, I don't know whether the tail light covers are present and no idea about condition. I don't even have those covers on my car. It has heated seats and electric windows too. I'd rather wait for a car with 1.6 l engine. However, I like the idea to have a straight rear door in the right colour. It could do until I get the rust and damaged pieces cutted off.

PS. The link may not be valid for long.


By the looks of those primer patches sprayed onto the car, it looks like it has its own rust issues.

Also facelift tail light covers are different to prefacelift (88-89). For anyone who cares, haha.
K3Nguru

Steve, I'm not sure whether there is facelift on EE5s. They look all the same. What differences should I be able to find? That car has some primer patches but it looks good for Finnish car. Road salt is used widely during the winter time so that's why most of the Finnish cars are rusty.

Some videos of ice track action as promised Very Happy. The videos are hidden so you can't find them without the following links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOaCj8fLX-I

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBBWhFoP4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA4Kpvltebs

Note. I didn't want to go as fast as possible in the corners. Drifting is much more fun! Mr. Green Sorry about Finnish chat Smile.
PS. Those bikes had a bit more traction because of the huge spikes on their tyres Twisted Evil
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
Steve, I'm not sure whether there is facelift on EE5s. They look all the same. What differences should I be able to find?


It's possible the 4wd models might have stayed pre facelift. But that silver sedan that you linked is facelift. Most noticeable differences are the tail lights. The bumpers are also larger, and there's a few updates to the interior dash.

Those snow vids are sick! Thanks for sharing.
4dred6

Sweet videos
K3Nguru

I haven't had time for updates recently. All the fluids were changed in early February before the second icetrack day.

Wonder why the electric mirror didn't work...


Sloppy damage repair by previous owner


Rust




No engine code


Real Time 4WD disengagement


Some Swedish Laughing
K3Nguru

I changed summer tyres on before Easter and went to countryside with the EE5. I love the SL ratio! You'll (almost) never get stuck!

Before changing the wheels, I noticed clonking sound when driving on uneven surface. It turned out that the front disc bolts were hand tight. I could spin them with my fingertips. Needless to say, that this caused the sound and weird braking feel. Sadly, I destroyed a couple of bolts heads when tightening them. They were soft as f***. No problem with those damn bolts before the wheel bearings were changed.

I also noticed that the NS front drive shaft has some travel. When pressing with hand, it moves inside about 5 cms! OS drive shaft moves just a little too. Any idea of what might be wrong? I had no access under the car so I couldn't inspect it.

I suspect that it's the inner CV joint... All the shock absorbers are dead (not even leaking anymore Shocked) and it has caused quite a big ride height loss. There's some vibration and the ride is a bit harsh. The outer CV joints were already replaced before I bought the car.

The problem with shocks and springs is that Honda Europe has only front springs and shocks left for EE5. You can't get OEM rear springs or shocks anymore. I don't know wheter the shocks are the same with EF chassis but the spring rates of EE5 are definitely higher. IIRC, the EE5 springs are a bit taller too. I can get Bilstein B12 (or was it B14) front and rear shocks but no suitable aftermarket springs. Does anyone know which aftermarket springs do fit? I want to have the original increased ground clearance as I want to get anywhere during the winter. A friend of mine tried EF rear springs and the rear end was way too soft (increased rear axle weight because of rear diff etc. and different subframe). Most of the original rubber bushings seem to be badly worn too.

I wish to start repairing the EE5 at some point before next winter. For summer months, my time and money is tied up in this:


Notice the frozen lake Razz
EF Sedan Enthusiast

Very nice!
89 LX SOHC ZC

Good looking summer car.
K3Nguru

Thanks guys. TBH, I've gone a bit OTT when detailing my S2000. You can find the link to my project thread in my signature.

Back to topic. It looks like I'm going to have a friend helping with welding stuff. I'll sort out the mechanical problems later. Civic is going to hibernation in a couple of days.
BLU CIVIC

i couldn't deal with all that rust  Confused
~Sp33~

My EF originally had replacement Koni's, but that was years ago.

You could use a replacement rear shock suited for a front wheel drive model, but just use the 4wd spring.
EF Sedan Enthusiast

There is a lot of rust but AWD.  Few and far between.
K3Nguru

Steve, unfortunately I can't get hold of 4wd rear springs. IIRC, Honda Europe has a pair of EE5 front springs and shocks in stock. At least, that's what Honda Finland found out. Could you please check from Honda?

Yeah, too much rust to make it perfect with small amount of money. Mine is just a winter toy for now so my main goal is to pass the annual safety test. In current condition my car wouldn't even pass the test. I wouldn't even dare to push the EE5 (and myself) beyond it's limits on icetrack if the car was a minter. If the EE5 will stay in one piece for a couple of years I'll try my best to restore it.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
Steve, unfortunately I can't get hold of 4wd rear springs.


We never got them in Australia so Honda wouldn't stock them here either. But when i commented before i meant that you would re-use your springs, and just put in new shocks. Why did you want to replace the springs?
K3Nguru

I suspect that the springs are not original EE5 springs or they have been shortened. That's what an average chav (like the previous owner) would've done Wink. If the springs are OEM, they must be a bit tired because of non-working shocks. Well, I don't know until I fit decent shocks. I'll need to get the rust removed at first.
EF Sedan Enthusiast

Chav?
K3Nguru

EF Sedan Enthusiast wrote:
Chav?

I seem to have spent too much time on UK forums... Razz
Definition of chav: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/chav
Chavs usually have slammed cars with tacky body kits, etc. By some definition, I'm a bit chavvy too Laughing.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
I suspect that the springs are not original EE5 springs or they have been shortened. That's what an average chav (like the previous owner) would've done Wink. If the springs are OEM, they must be a bit tired because of non-working shocks. Well, I don't know until I fit decent shocks. I'll need to get the rust removed at first.


Ah bugger! You could try finding a set of OEM 4wd wagon springs, that's probably your best bet.

Or.. I've heard DA Integra springs are taller, perhaps you could get those and cut them to the height you're after.
K3Nguru

It's still alive! The EE5 sailed through safety and emissions inspection yesterday. TBH, we needed to do some cutting and welding to make the underbody pass the test.

Some new metal...


A piece of steel sheet bent to right form:


That new piece is going here:


It seems to fit...


Almost done


Some fine tuning


Ready to be painted with Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 rust converter




Front left corner, the front wing is also badly corroded:


There more places that needed fixing but I have no photos of them. We fixed the front inner fenders but couldn't be arsed to fix the rear inner fenders. The left rear fender is a bit risky spot because of the fuel tank. A friend of mine did the welding and I painted and undersealed everything. I have no photos of the finished product because we were running out of time. All those rusty areas were under the rust preventative that was applied for around 20 years ago. After the welding, I applied some Hydrate 80 and let it dry for 24 hours. Then I sprayed some Dinitrol ML into all the water removal holes and Dinitrol Super Protect 447 to all the exposed areas. I also liberally applied Hydrate 80 to all the corroded bits on the paintjob so my car looks quite funny with blue/black spots on it Laughing. I still need to fix that left front fender.

This bushing seems to be toast and needs to be changed at some point:


The rear inner fenders could really do with some TLC. This is the bad (left) fender:


Right rear inner fender isn't much better...


Well, now I can play with the car for winter. Let's see if there's anything left of it after that. It's never going to be a show car, that's for sure. I'm trying to find better doors and front + rear arches for it but it's not going to be easy as many of the EF bodied cars are in even worse shape. I'm definitely going to have fun on icetrack, though. Very Happy I don't have to be worried if drive through snow banks.
~Sp33~

Good stuff!! Glad to see it's still getting around.
K3Nguru

A little bit of 4wd fun. Sorry about the sound quality. I took the wrong camera mount with me and I couldn't use the waterproof camera case... No incar videos at this time.

A WRX STI can't get rid of me Very Happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7DEtEQEQc8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjlbzlyUng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HFXDNi0cc

I have crappy Chinese studded tyres and I completely lost traction when we started driving clockwise. There were a couple of places where I avoided risks.

A bit after overtaking the spinned WRX when driving to a bump sideways, my exhaust touched the prop shaft so I had to retire... Actually, the same happened a lap before but it wasn't that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdMhOySYdtg
mr.$ed@n$ki

Damn what a big weather influence got your sedan..
Nice welding work man! Sweet S2000!
and funny snow drifting movies around the work buildings Laughing
K3Nguru

mr.$ed@n$ki wrote:
Damn what a big weather influence got your sedan..
Nice welding work man! Sweet S2000!
and funny snow drifting movies around the work buildings Laughing

Thanks mate. They use lots of road salt in Southern Finland in wintertime so most of old cars, that haven't been anti-rust threated often, are in bad shape. Actually, the most of Finnish 4th gen Civics are scrapped because of extensive rust damage.

I have a "new" offside front wing that I bought from a friendly Honda enthusiast. I just had to pay for shipping Very Happy. It's almost rust free. I grinded and sealed the surface today and I'm thinking of painting the wing. It's white so I could also let it be white. If I'm going to paint it it's going to be a rattle can job. I'm not sure whether it's worth it. After all, I'm trying to minimize the costs and my EE5 isn't a beauty anyway Laughing

The local icetrack will open soon so I'm likely to upload more videos in the next couple of weeks. The lake is frozen and ice should be strong enough in a week or so. The speedway guys already started their season at December 27th. After that we had a few days of plus degrees Celsius. It will be -25 degrees Celsius tomorrow Shocked.
mr.$ed@n$ki

Damn that's very cold dude brrr..
Here in the netherlands is not really winter,
like it was back in the days,
perfect for me and my cars, cause we don't like it! Razz

I'm curious about that wing you've said, any pictures?
89civicracer

Lotta work going on on this thing.. WOW!
Coming along nicely!
EF Sedan Enthusiast

^This
K3Nguru

Sorry, I was supposed to write front fender. I blame the single seater Nürburgring on snow video I watched before typing the message. Anyway, I painted the fender yesterday with Hydrate 80 and I applied Dinitrol 4941 to the inner face today. My new fender should last a lot longer than the rest of the car. Razz All I need is to remove the old rusty fender and bolt on the new one. I have no time to do it before next Tuesday.

I should replace the shocks and springs as the shocks are completely dead. No finances to do it at the moment as the Bilstein shock absorbers cost more than €100 each. All the bushings will be replaced at some point too. I'll have to find out their cost and if the OEM bushings are even available anymore. Bolt-on rear arches would be the easiest way to get rid of rusty rear arches.

With the current look I enjoy even more when smoking most of other cars on traffic lights. There are not many cars that can beat a lightweight 4WD car on icy/snowy road. I wish that there will be 3 EE5s and an EE4 on HCoF icetrack days in March. You can't see that many 4th gen 4WD Civics anywhere else at once.

PS. Icetrack opening at the coming weekend! car
mr.$ed@n$ki

Haha very nice feeling ain't it when you see them in your mirror!
I want a 4wd too!  Cool
K3Nguru

Icetrack season opened! The track was in bad condition and the banks were hard as rock at some places but I driving on ice was good fun. I felt bad for the car, though. There were horrible grooves on a couple of corners. The rear suspension arm of a Nissan Laurel snapped when a friend of mine slid sideways across those tracks. I captured incar videos at this time as I forgot the other camera at home.

I tried not to slide too much when going counter-clockwise. You can see the difference between ice spikes and worn out low-quality studded tyres ,with less than half of the studs left, on the last lap after I let the race Sierra past. We're quite equal everywhere else but the tight bends. BTW. All the cars that overtook me had racing spikes Cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esDr-ETdDxU

Second stint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZQl9l3_yU

I took much wider lines when going clockwise after the plough smoothed the track slightly Very Happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxb8oAYJ90k

Sadly, I had to retire once again after severe exhaust to prop shaft contact... Crying or Very sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir2cvcE7J04
I really need to get "Rotisko" on a hoist and weld some more exhaust attachment points. New exhaust would be even better as the old one has been patched several times. Do you guys know whether there are any differences between FWD and 4WD exhausts? At least the rear subframes are different.
mr.$ed@n$ki

Nice man, i like that ice track, wanna join too! lol
Next time better place your cam lower,
didn't see much of the track,
almost only snow on the ground because of the camera angle..

Don't know if there are differents in the exhaust,
FWD or 4WD, Never had a 4WD unfortunately Sad
K3Nguru

You're welcome to join mr.$ed@an$ki! Cool I would've put the camera lower but it was placed as low as possible when mounted on the sunroof. It's the only way to get proper incar footage. Placing the camera more on the right would be more ideal. I'll mount the camera outside on the sunroof next time. There is just snow and ice everywhere as we're driving on a lake Razz. The track is quite hard to see on camera because it's quite dark outside, plus it's windy and it snows a bit.

PS. Check the epic error correction on video #3 at 2:22. Spinning was out of the question Smile. car
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdMhOySYdtg


@3:05 did that guy have a death wish?? Shiiet

K3Nguru wrote:
After that we had a few days of plus degrees Celsius. It will be -25 degrees Celsius tomorrow Shocked.


It's currently 37*C here in Brisbane  Shocked

K3Nguru wrote:
Do you guys know whether there are any differences between FWD and 4WD exhausts? At least the rear subframes are different.


Yeah the 4wd exhaust is much different. the FWD one does not route correctly under the rear subframe, so it cant be mounted.

I've got a skidpan day coming up tomorrow, if all goes well i'll have some 4wd skid footage to share too Razz
K3Nguru

I found an EE5 with DOHC (D16A9) engine and turbo (0.5 bar) and I'm thinking of buying it. I'd struggle registering it as the A9 engine doesn't come with the catalytic converter and turbos are not allowed in low emissions vehicles in Finland. Laughing

The sills are gone but otherwise it should be in better condition than 'Rotisko'. It has also been repainted white 4 years ago. The doors and arches should be fine.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
I found an EE5 with DOHC (D16A9) engine and turbo (0.5 bar) and I'm thinking of buying it. I'd struggle registering it as the A9 engine doesn't come with the catalytic converter and turbos are not allowed in low emissions vehicles in Finland. Laughing

The sills are gone but otherwise it should be in better condition than 'Rotisko'. It has also been repainted white 4 years ago. The doors and arches should be fine.



Sounds cool! Any pics?
K3Nguru

Sorry, no pics of the turbo'd Civic at the moment as it's not mine - yet Cool.

I spent last weekend on ice and it was a good fun.
The weather wasn't that good on Saturday with +1 degrees Celsius and snowing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG8Navs11Q4
The weather was gorgeous on Sunday! Temperature was around -10 degrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFO7DP1xgWA
The track was in quite bad state at this point. The tracks were deep in places and it caused troubles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp8U1KZ3gy4
I have plenty of videos but I'm not going to make you anymore bored Very Happy. All the other cars were using race spikes. I was considerably slower with my old studded tyres with hardly any studs left. I enjoyed drifting but the front end could have done with more grip.
K3Nguru

It's still alive! I invested on new studded road tyres and did some welding. No photos of the progress and result but it looks even more ratty than before. I changed the front quarter panel to white one as the old one was too rusty. We also hammered and welded the badly dented rear quarter panel with a friend of mine. I didn't want it to look smooth so I did no smoothing and sprayed it with black underbody coating Razz. I also applied rust converter with paintbrush here and there.

Sunday was a perfect way to start the icetrack season at temperature of -25 degrees Celsius Very Happy. More videos to come on request but I decided to upload this footage taken (before 4 PM) more than an hour after the sunset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZsoeeWzxQ. Tomorrow will also be icetrack day. Temperature will be a bit nippy (-29 degrees) but at least our crew won't suffer from overheating issues.
mr.$ed@n$ki

K3Nguru wrote:
It's still alive! I invested on new studded road tyres and did some welding. No photos of the progress and result but it looks even more ratty than before. I changed the front quarter panel to white one as the old one was too rusty. We also hammered and welded the badly dented rear quarter panel with a friend of mine. I didn't want it to look smooth so I did no smoothing and sprayed it with black underbody coating Razz. I also applied rust converter with paintbrush here and there.

Sunday was a perfect way to start the icetrack season at temperature of -25 degrees Celsius Very Happy. More videos to come on request but I decided to upload this footage taken (before 4 PM) more than an hour after the sunset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZsoeeWzxQ. Tomorrow will also be icetrack day. Temperature will be a bit nippy (-29 degrees) but at least our crew won't suffer from overheating issues.


Wow nice video bro, really like the 4wd steering/drifting on snow!  Cool
~Sp33~

Sick vid, glad it's still going  Cool
K3Nguru

Thanks guys! I should have some 4k in-car video from Saturday but I haven't even seen them yet.

Yesterday morning was about the coldest weather I have ever driven a car. The temperature was sub -35 degrees Celsius. My car worked as it should even if it was quite stiff. The power steering doesn't work when the car is cold so you'll have to use some force to turn the steering wheel. I have a block heater (+ indoor heater) so luckily the car was pre-heated. However, I cold started the poor Civic after eight hours of work at temperature of -30 degrees. It started surprisingly well considering the circumstances, thanks to my >55 Ah battery (I don't remember the excact capacity). First attempt - no start, it started on the second attempt but quickly stalled. Third start was successful. After that I helped a woman with flat battery. I didn't have jump start leads but I had a rope so we tow-started it.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
Thanks guys! I should have some 4k in-car video from Saturday but I haven't even seen them yet.

Yesterday morning was about the coldest weather I have ever driven a car. The temperature was sub -35 degrees Celsius. My car worked as it should even if it was quite stiff. The power steering doesn't work when the car is cold so you'll have to use some force to turn the steering wheel. I have a block heater (+ indoor heater) so luckily the car was pre-heated. However, I cold started the poor Civic after eight hours of work at temperature of -30 degrees. It started surprisingly well considering the circumstances, thanks to my >55 Ah battery (I don't remember the excact capacity). First attempt - no start, it started on the second attempt but quickly stalled. Third start was successful. After that I helped a woman with flat battery. I didn't have jump start leads but I had a rope so we tow-started it.


Crazy harsh conditions. Meanwhile it's currently 33*C in Brisbane Australia right now, haha.
K3Nguru

~Sp33~ wrote:

Crazy harsh conditions. Meanwhile it's currently 33*C in Brisbane Australia right now, haha.

I'd prefer your conditions right now. I'm fed up with cold weather, -10 degrees C would be fine. Let's swap houses for a few weeks Very Happy. I'd like to see kangaroos and other Australian animals like koala and Tasmanian devil.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
~Sp33~ wrote:

Crazy harsh conditions. Meanwhile it's currently 33*C in Brisbane Australia right now, haha.

I'd prefer your conditions right now. I'm fed up with cold weather, -10 degrees C would be fine. Let's swap houses for a few weeks Very Happy. I'd like to see kangaroos and other Australian animals like koala and Tasmanian devil.


Haha, deal.
K3Nguru

Steve, we'll come in March Laughing.

About my car. At least one conrod bearing failed during icetrack day on Sunday. A friend of mine towed be back home and another friend is going to change the bearings. I wish that the crankshaft is still fine. It still runs fine and it doesn't knock on idle yet. I was lucky as the only set of standard size D16 connecting rod bearings in Finland happened to be at local parts dealer.

I'll upload and link more icetrack videos when I'm not busy.
K3Nguru

It turned out to be bigger damage; spun conrod bearing in 2nd cylinder. Crank grazed, conrod 2 grazed and gone gray. No further damage.





The old engine is already taken apart. We'll rebuild it with DOHC crank, conrods and pistons plus thinner metallic head gasket for newer D16s. The compression ratio will be approximately 12.5:1 as opposed to 9.0:1 of original D16A6 Very Happy. I would have got hold of skimmed SOHC head but the CR would have gone a bit OTT (15.0:1) with that. That's too much to run safely even on ethanol. I would've gone DOHC but the DOHC engine I quickly sourced was in pieces and with no ECU. Well, the SOHC head flows better.

I'm hoping that the car will be ready for icetrack tomorrow morning. I'll go to rebuild it after the work. It will be a long night for sure.
~Sp33~

Nasty!

I seem to remember there being some uncompatible part of the crank which meant it couldn't be shared between DOHC and SOHC.

let me know how you go with it, i'll be interested to know.

Do you have any idea of the cause? It might be a good idea to install a baffle into the sump, especially with the high and prolonged lateral forces, it might have been an oil starvation issue.
K3Nguru

No problem with the DOHC crank. Everything else was looking like new except that 2nd rod. Btw. The CR is around 12.0:1, not 12.5.

The DOHC engine came with stainless steel exhaust manifold and lightened flywheel so I got some nice parts basically for free. I only need crank, rod and ECU for DOHC engine. It will be rebuilt with D14 pistons later Very Happy. The other option is to use SOHC pistons and make low comp turbo engine. I guess that I don't need turbo as my car was faster = easier to drive than a WRX STi and Escort Cosworth Laughing.

First outing! I took my Civic to icetrack almost straight after the engine rebuild (a couple of hours of sleep). The rebuild took all night (12 hours). There's a lot more power and torque available and the engine revs freely up to 7000 rpm. I exited to the pits at 6:20 but forgot to stop recording. The radiator fan was not working so I did just a few laps / stint. The fan switch must be broken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abAeaywSXGM
K3Nguru

More videos from Saturday! I started trying a bit more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2siVEtEYlzs

Spinned Jaguar etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS72Or4RpTw

A beetle made 360 on the main straight in front of me at some point Cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8M4y_HrVw

Here I hit the snow bank at 12 minutes when trying to keep the rally Civic behind me. The rear went a bit wide but my correction was fast enough. I didn't want to dig the car from the bank... Very Happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu_X_5O05Lk
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
More videos from Saturday! I started trying a bit more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2siVEtEYlzs

Spinned Jaguar etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS72Or4RpTw

A beetle made 360 on the main straight in front of me at some point Cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8M4y_HrVw

Here I hit the snow bank at 12 minutes when trying to keep the rally Civic behind me. The rear went a bit wide but my correction was fast enough. I didn't want to dig the car from the bank... Very Happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu_X_5O05Lk


Overtaken by a Vauxhal/Opel Corsa! Shame! Razz

Cool vids... Does anyone run a dash cam like you? Have you seen yourself in anyone elses videos?
K3Nguru

~Sp33~ wrote:
Overtaken by a Vauxhal/Opel Corsa! Shame! Razz

Cool vids... Does anyone run a dash cam like you? Have you seen yourself in anyone elses videos?


There's no point even trying to block the Corsa as it has stripped interior and race spikes Very Happy. Far too fast for me to match. I wonder how an average STi or Evo driver would feel to see an old Civic overtaking them Laughing.

I found out that I was the only one who had dash cam recording Sad. There was a guy filming on side of the track but I wasn't on that video. I found plenty of still photos, though.

There are lots of photos of my Civic in this gallery: [img]http://www.rhead.org/kuvia/cars/Speedconcept-Icetrackday-in-Keretti-6-2-2016[/img]

A couple of examples © Kimmo Hassinen:






If look at close to the end of the gallery, you'll see me driving the blue STi with the owner of the car grinning from ear to ear Razz.


The following photos by © Sirpa Surakka. Me chasing the STi:


Here you can see the more colourful side of my Civic Cool, © Sirpa Surakka:


© Sirpa Surakka:


Opposite lock © Sirpa Surakka:


Escort RS 4x4 vs Civic 4wd battle © Sirpa Surakka:


I took the inside line, © Sirpa Surakka:


Overtaking on the main straight. My Civic has had a significant power increase as I could easily overtake the 150bph Escort RS with 2 litre engine Twisted Evil. I even had a passenger! © Sirpa Surakka:


© Sirpa Surakka:


Engine rebuild photos coming up soon!
~Sp33~

SO GOOD
K3Nguru

Stripping has started:


Engine out!






Damaged crank:




Everything ok up here:


Piston out. Check the carbon deposits on the other piston! Razz


Here's another photo of a piston:


D16A6 block:


Carbon deposits on the head:


PM6 pistons are perfect for D16A9 (DOHC) turbo build. I may also change the route and build a D12B turbo as spare engine because of better rod to stroke ratio.


Rebuild photos coming up soon... I'll also start a major project with the body but I'll tell you more when the car is ready for the road Very Happy. The EE5 is currently hibernating.
K3Nguru

The D16A9 came in pieces:














This was a pleasant extra!


Sorry, I don't have photos of all the rebuild steps but here are some. PM7 pistons in! Check out the difference in dome design between these and the PM6 pistons.


Time to bolt on the oil pan:


Head:


I also checked the valve clearences before the valve cover went on. We tried intake manifold from the DOHC engine but it didn't fit.

Assembly done and waiting for wash:


Washed:


Ready to go!


The "new" engine came with lightened flywheel so we used it:




Going in:








Comparison:


Almost done!


Fitting the cover was a struggle:


Ready!
DGPieterjan

Those snow pictures are godlike dude!  Cool
~Sp33~

Oh wow,

I didn't think it was possible to take the engine out without the transmission attached on the 4wd models.

Every time i've taken out the motor i removed the transmission as well.

What was the purpose of removing the transfer case?

The DOHC header doesn't line up very well with the SOHC head ports too, sometimes you can dremel the exhaust ports a bit to shape them so it fits better, or elongate the mounting holes so you can reposition the header... But the ports are about 3-5mm out of alignment.
K3Nguru

DGPieterjan wrote:
Those snow pictures are godlike dude!  Cool

Cheers mate Very Happy. Sadly, that was probably the last time on snow this year with my EE5.
K3Nguru

~Sp33~ wrote:
Oh wow,

I didn't think it was possible to take the engine out without the transmission attached on the 4wd models.

Every time i've taken out the motor i removed the transmission as well.

What was the purpose of removing the transfer case?

The DOHC header doesn't line up very well with the SOHC head ports too, sometimes you can dremel the exhaust ports a bit to shape them so it fits better, or elongate the mounting holes so you can reposition the header... But the ports are about 3-5mm out of alignment.


We were also told that it was impossible to take the engine out without transmission. The oil pan didn't come out with the transfer case attached so we removed it. After noticing that the crank and rod were toast, we decided to try removing just the engine and it worked out. It's a very tight fit but it can be done. We forgot put bolt on the flywheel cover before we put the engine back in so we had to ditch that. Putting the transfer case back was a real PITA as we didn't want to remove the prop shaft. However, we managed to tilt the prop and put the cover back with the longest bolts attached. The space for the bolts was very limited because of oil pan.

I don't know whether it's a DOHC header but it fitted fine to me. It rests firmly against the gearbox shell but it doesn't rattle. I'll check the fitment later. Right now, there more important things to do with the car.

The following happened less than a week after the engine rebuild.

Something is wrong Rolling Eyes


What could it be...


Oh, it's just rusted off Shocked


The rear diff was barely held on by petrol tank. I'm happy that the diff didn't fall when I drove to the garage. Too much power Confused






Quite an extreme drive shaft angle...


The failed weld (the biggest hole). The rear diff mounting is a joke as the frame is too thin.




This should hold:


The rear diff will be sitting a few millimeters lower but it nicely compensates the suspension geometry as the shocks and springs are useless Laughing


Reinforced plates for both sides. At least the tank didn't leak and luckily the interior didn't catch fire Razz


The rear diff going back. Naturally, the welded parts were sealed before the diff was bolted on.


Partially polished prop shaft Twisted Evil.
EF Sedan Enthusiast

Wow lots of stuff going on in here since I last visited.
K3Nguru

I found a new chassis and had a go with it! It had been standing for ten years Shocked. Sadly, I can't share direct links to Google Images...
Here's a link to a photo when I went to see the car:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...zdVf610hYEywg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

Anyway, I'll update later and share something. The new chassis is now stripped and painted orange.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...eiuYyZSKILBsw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

I just bought all the bushings so it will be like new when the build is finished Very Happy

Steve, you know something about shocks and fitment to EE/EF sedan. I was thinking of using ES5 front shocks & springs but I don't know what to use at the rear. Are you using aftermarket ones? I need enough height to be able to continue driving on ice. I wish that I'll be driving my lovely orange beast in January Cool[/url]
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
I found a new chassis and had a go with it! It had been standing for ten years Shocked. Sadly, I can't share direct links to Google Images...
Here's a link to a photo when I went to see the car:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...zdVf610hYEywg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

Anyway, I'll update later and share something. The new chassis is now stripped and painted orange.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...eiuYyZSKILBsw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

I just bought all the bushings so it will be like new when the build is finished Very Happy

Steve, you know something about shocks and fitment to EE/EF sedan. I was thinking of using ES5 front shocks & springs but I don't know what to use at the rear. Are you using aftermarket ones? I need enough height to be able to continue driving on ice. I wish that I'll be driving my lovely orange beast in January Cool[/url]


Damn, you've put in a lot of work already. Any/all pics you take please share!

I'm using aftermarket coilovers to suit the hatch (the bolt in... They're Tein Super Streets). The height is equivalent to the fwd models, but the extra weight of the 4wd makes the rear feel far too soft and hits the bump stops too quickly.

I don't know much about the ES civics unfortunately. I think they're suspension setup is unique compared to 88-00' civics so i'm not sure how much luck you will have swapping them over.

An option that i'm considering is just getting custom spring rate springs made for the rear. I don't think they're that expensive to order. Do you have a local suspension shop you could talk to about it?
K3Nguru

Yeah, I've worked quite hard to get it ready. Still a lot to do but it's getting there.

Thanks for letting me know how FWD coilovers work with the extra weight at the rear. I'll try to find something close to 4WD ones. Custom coilovers are too expensive as it's still a low budget build even if it has cost at least 4 times worth the car.

The floor pan is quite tidy: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...cxELUANQ_kqdg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

From this... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...Zvr66rykq_32g=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

...to that:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...Xrbcmt9hgu9yg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

The paint is not a RAL paint so the cheap Normador paint we applied with brush is not a match but I don't really care. The front frame is from my old car.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...PCyX1Dr8W9lUg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...H3ArzWV4rF2Sw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

We made a reinforced bracket for the rear diff.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...oCdpnItUv0iuw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

This should hold.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...9l1-f6zbThROw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

It's hanging there Very Happy
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...RLhRQwT5ccncw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

The old one still drives as FWD but not for long Laughing
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...pXZ06WyeSk0aw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
~Sp33~

Great stuff! What're you doing with the old car?

Also i just realised you're left hand drive! left hand drive 4wd sedans must be so rare.
K3Nguru

The old car is going to a friend of mine as exhange for the white chassis. It's pretty useless because of excessive rust but it's worth keeping because of rare VIN and a few usable parts.

Did I already mention that I also bought a bone stock ED1 as donor car? It's my daily driver with silver bonnet and filler cap Laughing

These LHD 4WD sedans are quite rare. There are less than ten left in Finland. However, I managed to find another. I'm going to fetch it in a few months. I don't even know if the chassis is salvageable but the 4wd parts are working. I've been thinking of making a stripped & caged two-seater (turbo) sedan or putting the 4wd parts to a newer (EG / EK) chassis.
89civicracer

DAMN Rust!
Car is sick though.. and like Steve mentioned.  A LHD one is super sick!  I can only imagine the fun in one of those.  Keep the pictures coming!  Wink
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
The old car is going to a friend of mine as exhange for the white chassis. It's pretty useless because of excessive rust but it's worth keeping because of rare VIN and a few usable parts.

Did I already mention that I also bought a bone stock ED1 as donor car? It's my daily driver with silver bonnet and filler cap Laughing

These LHD 4WD sedans are quite rare. There are less than ten left in Finland. However, I managed to find another. I'm going to fetch it in a few months. I don't even know if the chassis is salvageable but the 4wd parts are working. I've been thinking of making a stripped & caged two-seater (turbo) sedan or putting the 4wd parts to a newer (EG / EK) chassis.


That's pretty neat. The ED looks tidy.
K3Nguru

Thanks guys Smile. Sadly, the ED will be butchered. I have already taken bonnet, fuel cap and roof liner from it.

Anyway, I have spent most of my free time at garage and the project has progressed nicely. I have already started the car successfully after changing fuel pumps and burning the fuse #14.

Here are some photos of the progress.

Drive train parts

The engine bay looks empty

We dropped the whole package down and it was tight.

We washed the gearbox to get rid of the crappy yellow paint. We had no time to make it look better so it went in.

The ECU needs to be upgraded as these early PM7s don't come with external ROM. I'll need a chipped PM7 or P28/P30.

The dashboard is out!

It's starting to look like a proper car!

The roof liner is in.

The cleaned carpet and old dashboard are in!

The 10-year-old fuel didn't look too good and the pumps were siezed. We pumped the old fuel out. MY89 fuel pump and transfer pump look good. The other side of the MY90 tank is slightly rusted but still fine.

My old driver's seat is temporarily in Laughing

A few bushings waiting for install Cool

I happened to have an extra tow bar so it was blasted and prepped. Don't worry, I'll paint the visible parts black...

Those stupid rear arch overhags that trap dirt were cut off: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...5aFOjDxG7kquQ=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg. The rear end was cleaned prepped: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...BQIcDUQveaNvg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

The bottom after Dinitrol ML treatment. Dinitrol 447 underbody spray will be applied today.

I found something to weld from both sides (the grey fixed area at the bottom): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...c1k_g_aGhWQLQ=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg The welded area is quite small.

The next jobs are making a custom 2.5" exhaust, blasting + painting the lower arms and inserting new bushings. The rest of the interior is also ready to go in. The rear bumper and straightening of rear end and boot floor are also on the list. The brackets under the taillights are still unpainted as I forgot about them earlier. I'll also need to get the rear reg plate holder straigtened and painted. Not sure whether to paint it black or orange. The same goes with the fog light surrounds.
~Sp33~

If you swap the seat pans you can use the fwd drivers seat which might be cleaner than the one that's in there.

I love all these pics, it's funny...  your interior photo helped me identify how to re-install the little steal brackets that sit in front of gear shifter (fixes the steal bar that the steering column bolts to, to the center hump in the floor), id forgotten how it goes back together haha.

I'll be real interested in how you route the 2.5" exhaust. Mine hangs way too low, i'm going to get it re done and try to fit it between the differential and the rear sub frame (over the top of the subframe).

I vote to colour code the licence plate panel and foglight surrounds in the same orange  Cool
K3Nguru

Good to know that my photos helped you, Steve. I think that I can't help you regarding the 2.5" exhaust as my car is sitting on standard height (looks like as SUV Laughing). The rear light surrounds will be orange.

Anyway here are some photos...

I didn't get new OEM bushings in time so I repaired the OEM diff bushings. I also repaired one of the engine mounts in the same manner. Unfortunately, I forgot to capture photos of the making Razz. They're not pretty as they're just filled with black sikaflex. But hey, they are polyurethane Very Happy. If someone happens to need bushings, they're quite affordably available at Febest.

Undersealing done!

Exhaust mocked up. I was going to use my spare S2000 cat but it didn't fit. Went for OEM cat with 2.5" flange for now. The same from the other side. Another view from underside. This is the finished product and this is how it looks when installed. The finisher will be made after the rear bumper is in it's place.

The engine bay was slightly cleaned but it will be washed once the car is ready. The boot floor was battered straight. New sound insulation will be added later.

Then started the long and wearing bushings replacement. All the old bushings were in terrible condition. My build buddy metal blasted all the arms and pressed the new Febest bushing in. I just painted them all with hammerite. The first set with new bushings ready for painting. My car turned into hovercraft. The rear hubs and those big arms were not removed and painted as we were busy and getting the brake hoses removed without breaking anything would've been a real PITA. The bushings were too much to this small bottle jack and it was broken. We bought bigger one as replacement and it worked a treat.

These brakets came off my ED1 and I replaced them with these Twisted Evil

The rear arms painted! The front arms and brakes (minus the other caliper) waiting for blasting. Almost everything painted! The UCAs were also ready for paint. I found out the the upper ball joints are the same as Accord CG & CL. Anyway, I bought (Febi/Bilstein) UCAs just in case. That was a wise decision as one of the four bushings was destroyed. Everything ready at my painting line!

As you can see, my old car was a bit crispy! The EE5 shock vs. ED/EG shock:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...U7MJtKeYCZYhA=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg. The difference is obvious. The missing rear bumper tab from my old car Very Happy

Don't worry, the bolts were not tightened yet. The rear end is ready! The front with new UCAs!

Test drive done at the yard in the beginning of 2017! What did I say about the SUV look Laughing. That's what an EE5 looks like with OEM shocks and springs after the bushings were replaced. As you can see, there are no exhaust clearance issues. There's still a lot to do but the car should be ready soon: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...793Xa2vV7KStQ=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg. Naturally, I'll paint the tow bar black.
~Sp33~

Man you are smashing out the progress, good stuff.

Yeah you're clearance is so much better haha. Also you routed yours the same as OEM (through the clearance hole in the rear subframe on the right hand side). I tried to do mine under the left side where there is less clearance.... I think i'll have to change it.

Looks like Febest have a fair few bits for the 4wd's... They list a few 'bearings' I wonder if one of those is a center bearing for the prop shaft, mine needs a new one bad.
K3Nguru

We had an issue when putting the rear arms back. The bolts holding these were snapped during removal and the nut was disconnected from the body. We had to drill a holes to get them attached. Got them bolted on with normal bolts and nuts: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...0oHUv7i0EvIOg=w1920-h1080-no?.jpg

The rear bumper brackets bolted on. The plastic clips were toast so normal bolts were used.

The rear bumper bar from my ED1 was bent and we couldn't get the bumper aligned with it so we had to make custom bar for it. The initial fitment looks quite good to me.


We inserted new plastics Laughing to the doors before attaching the door cards. The interior is almost ready! Looks like a car to me Very Happy

Random shots:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...eQAAE_neEl2_Q=w1920-h1080-no?.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...0EW0wWH2Ofg-Q=w1920-h1080-no?.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...Gttcn22TMAIHg=w1920-h1080-no?.jpg

It's already test driven. The handling seemed to be fantastic compared to last winter  Smile
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...Rqe7e7MRKey7Q=w1920-h1080-no?.jpg

I got the parts for the rear painted so my car should be ready for registration inspection tomorrow. Fingers crossed that it will pass and I can take it to the icetrack on Saturday!
K3Nguru

I got my EE5 registered on Friday. I've already done an icetrack day and it was a blast! I'm too busy to update with photos and videos but I'll try to do it asap. It's definitely a WRX STi killer on ice Twisted Evil. On the other hand, I was slower than Citroen Saxo but that rallye prepped Saxo was running race spikes Laughing
K3Nguru

Here are some photos of progress. The tail lights are bolted on! I stole the cover plates from my ED1. I repainted the tow bar with rust preventol. It will be black some day... I'll also need to install the plug with wiring. Here's the custom rear bumper holder Laughing The rusty fog light brackets went in as I needed to get the rear end together in less than two hours. The rear reg plate holder is in bad shape but it will last for a couple of years. I'll have to make new center section for in some day.

Off to inspection we go! I had to buy sticker plates so I could drive it to inspection because this car has been off traffic for more than 12 years. Here are a few obligatory photos from inspection:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...vRRCvAD5ac1PA=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...vLPQagTE3cWvw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...7AqdOznIhpPQg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg

Reg plate fastened in ghetto style Razz: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...m7wb4PWz8ZZRw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
Patent pending fitment Wink of rear splash guards: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...MwT-0DHuBMcHg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg.
Here's the other side with exhaust tip. The rear end looks decent to me. This minus around 50 kms is the starting mileage of my newly registered Civic!

Sunday on ice as photos:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...Xf_WGBSxCHiQg=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...SP_a-_oz5LJ9g=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...TM7erm6id613g=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
The front reg plate holder is from my S2000. IMO, it suits the car quite well Very Happy
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com..._yytKZZve_1Tw=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...JyzXL8DA8G3EA=w1280-h1024-no?.jpg
The outer door and roof lists / panels (or WTH they're called) need to be installed some day. It's a PITA and will have to wait. I'll focus on driving it like I stole it at the moment Twisted Evil

The engine bay is wiped clean. I couldn't resist putting a genuine J's Racing oil cap (no sticker) in its place. It stands out but I needed some bling bling Cool. I'll paint the valve cover later. Which colour should I choose?

Here are videos from Sunday. As I may have told you before, my 4wd Civic is with fixed 50:50 ratio as the viscous coupling in the middle of the prop shaft is stuck. You can see from my incar footages that my driving is sports as the steering is so slow =D. All the cars passing me were running race spikes. Mine are road legal Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 (155/80R13) studded tyres.

Dash cam: #1, #2, #3 and #4

Incar: #1, #2 and #3

In #2 you can see me chasing and passing a Subaru WRX STi.
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:


In #2 you can see me chasing and passing a Subaru WRX STi.


That's a good chase, love the in car vids. Have you thought of installing an LSD? Looks like it could really help to shift the cars weight in the corners. I'm going to be installing a rear LSD in mine when it gets back on the road, i'm hoping it will make the car feel like it can be steered with the throttle a bit more.

You mentioned something about the rear bumper supports, i noticed when i was trying to use fwd rear bumper support, the stud on the bumper support is in a different location to the 4wd model because the trunk floor is higher (2wd vs 4wd):





Pretty annoying.

Also, what do you mean by your viscous coupler is stuck? It has seized?

I would go wrinkle black on the valve cover, because i love the OEM look hahaha... Nice update!
K3Nguru

I meant that my viscous coupling is seized. Please, let me know where did you find an LSD for the rear! I could do with one. It really has to be limited as the center is locked Laughing. Otherwise, I'll end up breaking something. Also, let me know if you find an affordable front LSD somewhere!

Yeah, I noticed that the rear bumper supports are different. An easy fix is to cut the support right under the upper stud. However, my ED1 bumper frame was badly bent so it was useless.
JB81

How much is complete renovation of a sedan? Nothing special, just interior and exterior fixes, because engine and other mechanical stuff are fine.
Can I do it by myself or it’s better if I pay some expert to do it?
~Sp33~

K3Nguru wrote:
I meant that my viscous coupling is seized. Please, let me know where did you find an LSD for the rear! I could do with one. It really has to be limited as the center is locked Laughing. Otherwise, I'll end up breaking something. Also, let me know if you find an affordable front LSD somewhere!

Yeah, I noticed that the rear bumper supports are different. An easy fix is to cut the support right under the upper stud. However, my ED1 bumper frame was badly bent so it was useless.


I've bought an OBX LSD to install in the rear. It needs a little bit of modifying (it's actually a front LSD), but there's a few RT4wd wagon guys who run these in the rear. If i come across the write-up i'll link it to you, if not i'll show you when i do it in my build thread Smile
K3Nguru

JB81 wrote:
How much is complete renovation of a sedan? Nothing special, just interior and exterior fixes, because engine and other mechanical stuff are fine.
Can I do it by myself or it’s better if I pay some expert to do it?

Complete revovation would cost you a fortune if you paid for someone to do it for you. You can do most of the work yourself but you'll need help or tools for bushings replacement. My rebuild would have taken for ages without my friend, car hoist and proper tools. Welding was done by a friend of mine and I paid for respray (too much). With all the parts and donor cars etc., the rebuild have cost me thousands of Euros. It's expensive for sure if you do it properly.
JB81

That's why I ask. I probably can't do it by myself. I hope I will get someone to help me with it, like you did.
How long have you guys worked on renovation? From start to the end...
K3Nguru

It took about a month to get my car road legal. It's not ready yet but finishing will have to wait as I want to enjoy the car now.

I bought these bad boys for the rear. They are from a race car but they have just been serviced so I wish that they'll last forever Laughing. Here's a shot of Öhlins top mounts + adjusters. I have Öhlins coilovers on my S2000 and they're superb.

There was a bit of snow at the rear after last Saturday on ice. Here's some more ice and snow: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...gKJ2S9vD226Ruugg=w1280-h1024?.jpg. The rear bumper was packed with snow so I need to get some rubber/plastic flaps to fill this gap above the mud flap. The metal extensions were gutted off as they were corroded. I need to adjust the exhaust a bit as it's catching the prop shaft on bumps. Here's a better shot of the shaft and exhaust under it. It's getting worse all the time. The front silencer is also catching the body so there's more adjusting to be done. I checked everything underneath so I here's a shot from a little peculiar angle.
JB81

K3Nguru wrote:
It took about a month to get my car road legal. It's not ready yet but finishing will have to wait as I want to enjoy the car now.


Enjoying the car is the main thing about this for me, too.
I think that one month is pretty good for a job like that, it will take me more time for sure.
K3Nguru

I've been practising my driving on icetrack every weekend. I'll update some photos later but you can find all my new videos from my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/K3Nguru

Here are a few pics from the videos Laughing
-high speed drift (incar) starting at 100 km/h
-close call with Audi in extreme conditions
-drivingon the limit. No room for error as the snow banks were rock hard
-driving as fast as possible hitting the top speed of 111 km/h before braking point on the last few laps. I finally had to stop because an exhaust hanging rubber failed. Luckily, I have plenty of ground clearance so I was able to rehang the exhaust on the spot
K3Nguru

Oh wait, I'll have to share you this: I got myself another 4WD Civic! Very Happy

I actually has an AC and this fancy center arm rest:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...wfOKAnxpZQ1WFxCDg=w800-h600?=.jpg

Facelift front with lip is a nice addition to my collection: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...JpnnqyaUIdfsxG5qg=w800-h600?=.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com...mWH-xU0mEf9t9CkZg=w800-h600?=.jpg

I bought the car as spares but I'm already thinking of making it an icetrack monster for next winter. No interior, roll cage, engine with turbo and spike tyres Laughing. Sounds good, doesn't it Question
~Sp33~

I'm pretty sure you have every 4wd sedan in your whole country now.
Grifty

Just had a read of all the updates, really good stuff! Keep it coming!

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